Michael Paoli via BALUG-Test wrote on 2024-09-08 14:31:
I do really want to keep the footer short, like 3 lines maximum, per various best practices, etc. Alas, folks mostly tend to ignore what's there anyway.
For what it's worth, the MM3 mailing list has these 4 lines of footer (plus a "sent to ...@..."):
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Works okay, IMHO. Helps legibility when URLs are converted to hyperlinks by the MUA.
Anyway, looks like you've been doing a real deep dive into MM3, so now I know who to ask when I have issues... Or when I'm asked questions, I can refer 'em to you.
Ha.
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 4:55 PM Ron / BCLUG admin@bclug.ca wrote:
Michael Paoli via BALUG-Test wrote on 2024-09-08 14:31:
I do really want to keep the footer short, like 3 lines maximum, per various best practices, etc. Alas, folks mostly tend to ignore what's there anyway.
For what it's worth, the MM3 mailing list has these 4 lines of footer (plus a "sent to ...@..."):
Mailman-users mailing list -- mailman-users@mailman3.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-leave@mailman3.org https://lists.mailman3.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.mailman3.org/ Archived at: https://lists.mailman3.org/archives/list/mailman-users@mailman3.org/message/...
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... 4 lines ... Yeah, with separator line(s) content lines folding from length sent to ... and a blank/empty line immediately before that that ends up being a total of 8 lines, trying to avoid that. ;-) Also the blank/empty line may also (slightly?) add to confusion, as folks may not be so much expecting that in footer.
_______________________________________________ list: ${display_name}@${domain} help: https://$%7Bdomain%7D/help/ unsubscribe email: ${short_listname}-unsubscribe@${domain} After expansion: _______________________________________________ list: BALUG-Announce@lists.balug.org help: https://lists.balug.org/help/ unsubscribe email: balug-announce-unsubscribe@lists.balug.org Tops out at 72 characters wide. Ideally would keep that to 70, as Mailman may fold after 70 (customarily does for lots of content), and much mail software may fold at around 72 to 80 characters (and many screens will wrap at 80). But Mailman doesn't fold the footer, if I'm not mistaken, so should squeak by on that (and the rest of our lists (names) end up <=70 for that same when fully expanded). Well, guess I'll also know / be able to check bit more on that after this one. for $n (48..160){print('_' x ($n - 3), sprintf('%03d',$n), "\n")}
Anyway, looks like you've been doing a real deep dive into MM3, so now I know who to ask when I have issues... Or when I'm asked questions, I can refer 'em to you.
Heh, ... yeah, I feel like I'm sort'a kind'a barely starting to get an (almost) "real"(?) handle on it.
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